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		<title>Comment on Rafael Capurro Joining UW-Milwaukee School of Information Studies by bianca</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2009/11/02/rafel-capurro-joining-uw-milwaukee-school-of-information-studies/comment-page-1/#comment-160547</link>
		<dc:creator>bianca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great man Dr. Rafael Capurro and he has many articles on this subject, very helpful ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great man Dr. Rafael Capurro and he has many articles on this subject, very helpful ones.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it Ethical to Harvest Public Twitter Accounts without Consent? by Boz</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/02/12/is-it-ethical-to-harvest-public-twitter-accounts-without-consent/comment-page-1/#comment-160546</link>
		<dc:creator>Boz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious to see the reactionaries in this thread, opposed to technological and practice innovation that might provide privacy in public. The notion that this is hard to do is, well, funny. It&#039;s sad to see them try to rule certain points out of bounds, but that I guess that goes with the reactionary mindset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious to see the reactionaries in this thread, opposed to technological and practice innovation that might provide privacy in public. The notion that this is hard to do is, well, funny. It&#8217;s sad to see them try to rule certain points out of bounds, but that I guess that goes with the reactionary mindset.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Pete Warden Should Not Release Profile Data on 215 Million Facebook Users by Michael Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/02/12/why-pete-warden-should-not-release-profile-data-on-215-million-facebook-users/comment-page-1/#comment-160545</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conrad: Thanks for the comment, but, respectfully, I disagree. While you and I recognize that &quot;once a document is public on the web, one can no longer make presumptions about how it will be used&quot;, &lt;i&gt;many&lt;/i&gt; Web users do not fully understand this, and we cannot presume it as a proper starting place for forming norms of information flow online. And, as you predict, I also disagree that Warden&#039;s releasing of the data would be a positive step towards reducing ignorance. There are much better ways to educate Web users and increase digital literacy than the drastic move of releasing data about them. My intent isn&#039;t to control bots, but to educate users and researchers alike regarding the norms of information flow, and, as a result, hopefully adjust their tactics and strategies accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conrad: Thanks for the comment, but, respectfully, I disagree. While you and I recognize that &#8220;once a document is public on the web, one can no longer make presumptions about how it will be used&#8221;, <i>many</i> Web users do not fully understand this, and we cannot presume it as a proper starting place for forming norms of information flow online. And, as you predict, I also disagree that Warden&#8217;s releasing of the data would be a positive step towards reducing ignorance. There are much better ways to educate Web users and increase digital literacy than the drastic move of releasing data about them. My intent isn&#8217;t to control bots, but to educate users and researchers alike regarding the norms of information flow, and, as a result, hopefully adjust their tactics and strategies accordingly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Pete Warden Should Not Release Profile Data on 215 Million Facebook Users by Conrad Lee</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/02/12/why-pete-warden-should-not-release-profile-data-on-215-million-facebook-users/comment-page-1/#comment-160544</link>
		<dc:creator>Conrad Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of your main points seems to be that people are unaware that their data may be collected by bots, and so there is an implicit agreement that the data will be consumed by only humans.

However, once a document is public on the web, one can no longer make presumptions about how it will be used.  Even if Pete Warden does not release his dataset, others have already collected this data and are using it for unknown purposes.  In fact, it&#039;s probably on sale &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rapleaf.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  If Pete Warden releases the Facebook data, he will just be bringing attention to the fact that this kind of automated collection is already happening, which in my mind is better than allowing people to remain ignorant of this possibility.

You could argue that this argument is based on the premise that one wrong justifies another, which is in part true.  If no bots crawled this data, then your argument against releasing the data would be stronger.  However, there&#039;s no way of enforcing this kind of control, so this is a moot point in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of your main points seems to be that people are unaware that their data may be collected by bots, and so there is an implicit agreement that the data will be consumed by only humans.</p>
<p>However, once a document is public on the web, one can no longer make presumptions about how it will be used.  Even if Pete Warden does not release his dataset, others have already collected this data and are using it for unknown purposes.  In fact, it&#8217;s probably on sale <a href="http://www.rapleaf.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  If Pete Warden releases the Facebook data, he will just be bringing attention to the fact that this kind of automated collection is already happening, which in my mind is better than allowing people to remain ignorant of this possibility.</p>
<p>You could argue that this argument is based on the premise that one wrong justifies another, which is in part true.  If no bots crawled this data, then your argument against releasing the data would be stronger.  However, there&#8217;s no way of enforcing this kind of control, so this is a moot point in my mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Event: Emerging Privacy and Ethical Challenges for Libraries in the 2.0 Era by Michael Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/03/12/emerging-privacy-and-ethical-challenges-for-libraries-in-the-2-0-era/comment-page-1/#comment-160540</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kim,

When I read your mention of &quot;cross-culturally&quot;, I (incorrectly) presumed you meant different global cultures.

Reading your later comment and blog post, you&#039;ll be happy to know I&#039;m in complete agreement about the fact that there isn&#039;t a singular conception of privacy within the U.S., whether among scholars or users. (Although U.S. law/regulation tends to have a singular -- and flawed -- conception of privacy).

I hope that if you read through my blog, you&#039;d discover that I&#039;m one of the loudest adherents to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://michaelzimmer.org/category/privacy/contextual-integrity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;contextual nature of privacy&lt;/a&gt;: it means different things to different people in different contexts.

I look forward to following your blog...

-michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kim,</p>
<p>When I read your mention of &#8220;cross-culturally&#8221;, I (incorrectly) presumed you meant different global cultures.</p>
<p>Reading your later comment and blog post, you&#8217;ll be happy to know I&#8217;m in complete agreement about the fact that there isn&#8217;t a singular conception of privacy within the U.S., whether among scholars or users. (Although U.S. law/regulation tends to have a singular &#8212; and flawed &#8212; conception of privacy).</p>
<p>I hope that if you read through my blog, you&#8217;d discover that I&#8217;m one of the loudest adherents to the <a href="http://michaelzimmer.org/category/privacy/contextual-integrity/" rel="nofollow">contextual nature of privacy</a>: it means different things to different people in different contexts.</p>
<p>I look forward to following your blog&#8230;</p>
<p>-michael.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Event: Emerging Privacy and Ethical Challenges for Libraries in the 2.0 Era by Kim Christen</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/03/12/emerging-privacy-and-ethical-challenges-for-libraries-in-the-2-0-era/comment-page-1/#comment-160539</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Christen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
Thanks, although I think this is exactly a US and legal issue. While I applaud the panel&#039;s efforts, the fact is, the &quot;US legal and conceptual environment&quot; does, in fact, contain these issues, but marginalizes them.

I actually was writing a blog post about this anyway when I came across this so I&#039;ve responded more fully there (http://www.kimberlychristen.com/?p=885)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
Thanks, although I think this is exactly a US and legal issue. While I applaud the panel&#8217;s efforts, the fact is, the &#8220;US legal and conceptual environment&#8221; does, in fact, contain these issues, but marginalizes them.</p>
<p>I actually was writing a blog post about this anyway when I came across this so I&#8217;ve responded more fully there (<a href="http://www.kimberlychristen.com/?p=885" rel="nofollow">http://www.kimberlychristen.com/?p=885</a>)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Event: Emerging Privacy and Ethical Challenges for Libraries in the 2.0 Era by Michael Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/03/12/emerging-privacy-and-ethical-challenges-for-libraries-in-the-2-0-era/comment-page-1/#comment-160538</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing this out, Kim. Clearly, different cultures have different conceptions of values &amp; rights, including privacy. Unfortunately, that discussion is beyond the scope of this panel, and we&#039;ll be focusing (largely) on the U.S. legal and conceptual environment.

But I&#039;m working on similar projects focusing on the intercultural challenges of information ethics, especially in the African context. I&#039;ll post more on that soon, but there&#039;s some helpful information at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://icie.zkm.de/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;International Center for Information Ethics&lt;/a&gt;, as well as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.africainfoethics.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;African Information Ethics portal&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing this out, Kim. Clearly, different cultures have different conceptions of values &#038; rights, including privacy. Unfortunately, that discussion is beyond the scope of this panel, and we&#8217;ll be focusing (largely) on the U.S. legal and conceptual environment.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m working on similar projects focusing on the intercultural challenges of information ethics, especially in the African context. I&#8217;ll post more on that soon, but there&#8217;s some helpful information at the <a href="http://icie.zkm.de/" rel="nofollow">International Center for Information Ethics</a>, as well as the <a href="http://www.africainfoethics.org/" rel="nofollow">African Information Ethics portal</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Event: Emerging Privacy and Ethical Challenges for Libraries in the 2.0 Era by Kim Christen</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2010/03/12/emerging-privacy-and-ethical-challenges-for-libraries-in-the-2-0-era/comment-page-1/#comment-160537</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Christen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the ALA&#039;s recent public document &quot;Librarianship and Traditional Cultural Expressions: Nurturing Understanding and Respect&quot; (http://wo.ala.org/tce/) will the panel also be discussing the differences between conceptions of privacy cross-culturally? the legacies of Enlightenment notions of privacy on collecting institutions current policies? the effects of the emphasis on privacy (tacitly assumed to mean individual privacy) for group or communal concerns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the ALA&#8217;s recent public document &#8220;Librarianship and Traditional Cultural Expressions: Nurturing Understanding and Respect&#8221; (<a href="http://wo.ala.org/tce/" rel="nofollow">http://wo.ala.org/tce/</a>) will the panel also be discussing the differences between conceptions of privacy cross-culturally? the legacies of Enlightenment notions of privacy on collecting institutions current policies? the effects of the emphasis on privacy (tacitly assumed to mean individual privacy) for group or communal concerns?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the Privacy Concerns of Chicago&#8217;s 911-CCTV Surveillance Infrastructure by CCTV Alarm Systems</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2009/02/28/on-the-privacy-concerns-of-chicagos-911-cctv-surveillance-infrastructure/comment-page-1/#comment-160528</link>
		<dc:creator>CCTV Alarm Systems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always going to be a debate over privacy concerns. On one hand is it right that we shoudl all be watched 24/7 but on the other hand if you are the one who has just been robbed and beaten you want that person off the street in double quick time. It seems we either sort out society or comprimise on our basic right to privacy. I am sure the first option is a better one but while this is being sorted I&#039;d like to walk around safely thanks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always going to be a debate over privacy concerns. On one hand is it right that we shoudl all be watched 24/7 but on the other hand if you are the one who has just been robbed and beaten you want that person off the street in double quick time. It seems we either sort out society or comprimise on our basic right to privacy. I am sure the first option is a better one but while this is being sorted I&#8217;d like to walk around safely thanks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comparing Search Engine Privacy Policy Visibility by Michael Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://michaelzimmer.org/2008/05/27/comparing-search-engine-privacy-policy-visibility/comment-page-1/#comment-160521</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Michele. Ask added the link on June 18, 2008: http://web.archive.org/web/20080618205332/http://www.ask.com/.  While it was acknowledged in the comments above, I&#039;ll modify the main post accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Michele. Ask added the link on June 18, 2008: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20080618205332/http://www.ask.com/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20080618205332/http://www.ask.com/</a>.  While it was acknowledged in the comments above, I&#8217;ll modify the main post accordingly.</p>
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